Kendrick Lamar and Timothée Chalamet may come from different creative worlds, but they have more in common than one might think.

The two recently sat down for a conversation, shared on social media by the NFL, where they discussed their artistic journeys.

In a black-and-white video, Lamar and Chalamet take a drive together, engaging in a thoughtful discussion. As Lamar takes the wheel, he first ensures that Chalamet has fastened his seat belt.

“Mine is on, by the way,” Lamar points out.

“Oh, it is on,” Chalamet responds. “I didn’t see. I was like, man, people are going to be saying I look soft.”

Their conversation soon shifts to creativity, with Lamar opening up about how he overcomes writer’s block. He then asks Chalamet, the star of A Complete Unknown, about his own process:

“When it’s been a while, does it take you time to warm up in front of the camera? Do you need a moment to remember your lines and get into character?”

“All of the above,” Chalamet admits. “I try to prepare at home, but acting is strange—if you don’t have an audience, it feels like insanity. You start questioning what you’re doing.”

He adds that getting into the right mindset takes time:

“I try to warm up and let go of self-consciousness once I’m back on set. But that’s a process.”

Both artists are currently at the peak of their careers. Lamar recently won five Grammy Awards and is set to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show, while Chalamet has received an Oscar nomination for his portrayal of Bob Dylan in A Complete Unknown.

Chalamet also speaks about embracing failure, saying, “The most important part of a bad day is how you leave it. If you can walk away with a positive mindset, then there’s nothing to fear.”

For Lamar, writing is both an artistic practice and a form of self-discovery.

“It keeps me sane,” he shares. “It also allows me to learn about myself. Writing forces you to sit with your emotions and be vulnerable.”

As the conversation unfolds, it’s clear that Chalamet holds great admiration for Lamar’s work.

“I’ve been a fan of your music forever,” Chalamet tells him. “And seeing where you are now—man, the Super Bowl halftime show—it’s just incredible. You keep climbing, bro. It’s amazing.”